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Welcome to St Luke’s located in Southern Sydney, Australia! We would absolutely love for you to come by and visit us. Our Church is welcoming of everyone from anywhere.

If this is your first time to visit an Orthodox Church, please feel free to check out some information below, or just walk in during one of our service times. Our Divine Liturgy (Service of the Eucharist) begins 9am on Sunday. Afterwards you will find great food (& coffee!), friendly faces, and a family-friendly atmosphere. At 11am our children’s program gets underway – “St Luke’s Kidz.” Families with children are most welcome to any service, so please do not worry about the noise – Fr. Daniel’s and Fr. Samuel’s own children are far louder!

If you have any questions or would like to make an appointment for confession, counselling, or just a good coffee, please contact Fr. Daniel or Fr. Samuel at any time. See you on Sunday!

WHAT TO EXPECT

What do I do when I Get There?

Our Liturgy begins at 9:00 am on Sunday. When you arrive feel free to sit anywhere you like, you will find the Liturgy guide up on the screen. Feel free at any point to ask someone for help if you are lost. You will find that we are a fairly young community, and so if you have little ones they will feel right at home. There will be a sermon about half-way through. At the end of the Liturgy everyone will be greeted by one of the priests, and that is a great opportunity to introduce yourself. Afterwards we all gather for a great meal and coffee, whilst the young ones get ready for the kids program.

Can we bring friends or our children?

Of course! God welcomes everyone, and so do we. The focus of our Church is every individual. So please feel free to bring anyone with you that may also be interested. That means the youngest child, to the greyest elder.

We understand that it is often difficult to contain loud children, but please do not let that be an obstacle. In the first place, most of us have young families (Fr. Daniel himself has 3 very loud children, and Fr. Samuel has 3 even louder children), so we all understand that little youngsters want to run free. Children are the life of the Church, and as such we follow the words of Christ in making them vital member of our Church services: “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven.” After the Liturgy we have an awesome kids program where they can play & learn whilst you enjoy a well-earned coffee!

What if i am not Orthodox?

Come and experience how the earliest & original Church worships! You may or may not know this, but there is a multiplicity of Orthodox churches: Coptic, Greek, Romanian, Russian, Antiochian, Serbian, and on and on. There are about 250 million in the world, making Orthodoxy the second-largest Christian community. But even though these Churches are the different ethnic expressions of the same faith, each Church is called to not only nourish its faithful but also to sanctify its community. At St. Luke’s we want to share the treasure and spiritual depth that the Orthodox Church has. This is simply because the Orthodox Church from the very earliest Church went out into the world regardless of one’s culture, language, or colour.

In addition, you’ll always find someone who can answer any questions you might have along the way. Orthodoxy seems startlingly different at first, but as the weeks go by it gets to be less so. It will begin to feel more and more like home, and will gradually draw you into your true home, the Kingdom of God. Come and check it out for yourself…

Some common questions & pointers

1. What could possibly take 2 hours?

Just so you know, the liturgical prayers we now use (written by St. Basil) are the shortened version of the original 5+ hour liturgy of the early church. You will probably ask yourself several times during the service “is there a concise way to say this? Can extra adjectives be deleted?” Although you may not see it at first, each prayer is intentional and very critical to the liturgical service. Don’t forget that the center of our life as a church family is the Eucharist; each prayer is vital in preparing us to receive the Body and Blood of Christ.

2. Simon Says, “Stand up!”…Simon Says, “Sit Down”

In the Orthodox tradition, the faithful stand up for nearly the entire service. Really. In most Coptic churches, there will be pews or rows of chairs. In any case, if you find the amount of standing too challenging you’re welcome to take a seat. No one minds or probably even notices; you’ll likely see others doing it as well. Don’t lose heart, standing gets easier with practice.

3. The Sign of the Cross.

To say that we make the sign of the cross frequently would be an understatement. We sign ourselves any time we mention the Holy Trinity, whenever we venerate an icon, and on many other occasions in the course of the Liturgy. You’ll notice it a lot when you hear specific words like “worship” or “glorify.” There is no set rule of when you should and shouldn’t, it’s a personal thing. We cross with our right hands from left to right. Traditionally we hold our hands in a prescribed way: thumb and first two fingertips pressed together, last two fingers pressed down to the palm. Can you figure out the symbolism? Three fingers together for the Trinity; two fingers brought down to the palm for the one Person of Christ that is both fully human and fully divine, and his coming down to earth. This, too, takes practice. Don’t worry: a beginner’s imprecise arrangement of fingers won’t offend God.

4. Kissing in the Church.

Alright, I know what you’re thinking. The Orthodox church is supposed to be super strict…how then can we allow kissing at church?  The reality is we kiss stuff. It’s an expression of love – sincere affection. We kiss icons, the relics of saints, and a priest’s hand when greeting him. We even greet each other shortly after the sermon during the liturgical service. You’ll hear the deacon say “Greet one another with a holy kiss…” (1 Peter 5:14). It’s not a secret handshake that only Orthodox people know, don’t worry; just follow the lead of those around you: both palms touching with thumbs crossed over each other, touch the hands of your neighbor and then kiss your own hand. Repeat. Exchanging the kiss of peace is a liturgical act, a sign of mystical unity between the entire congregation. It’s a reminder that Christ’s Spirit is what unites each of us although we may not know each other very well. Don’t worry there is also a time for coffee, chatting, and fellowship later.

5. We’re not just breaking bread at the Olive Garden

The entire liturgical service is focused on one main event, which is the Holy Eucharist (or Communion). In the Orthodox Church, we believe that the Eucharist is the actual Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. Communion is reserved for those who are baptized in the Orthodox Church. This is not a way to exclude people, but the Eucharist is the Church’s treasure, and it is reserved for those who have united themselves with the Church. It’s kind of like reserving marital relations until after the wedding (baptism). Towards the end of the liturgy, everyone lines up and receives the bread (Body of Christ) and wine (Blood of Christ). If you have any questions about this (and you will) please just ask our Priest. As a primer have a read of John 6.

6. Music, music, music.

Traditionally, Coptic Orthodox use cymbals and a triangle during the service. Old school, we know.  You will also notice that more than half of the service is sung by the congregation… if you’re comfortable, sing along! Participation is key if you hope to stay focused during the liturgical prayers. Now the hymns of the church pack a lot of meaning, not only in the words but also in the tune itself. Each season of the church has its own tunes and hymns.

7. Wait, is that smoke?

Don’t worry we have it under control. The smoke you see is actually the incense that the priest releases from the censor. In the Orthodox Church, incense represents prayers and repentance that ascend into heaven.  Each time the priest passes by with the censor, your prayers and those of everyone in the church are rising before the throne of God Himself. Don’t believe it? “Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.” Revelation 5:8

8. Our Champions the Saints

A constant feature of Orthodox worship is veneration of the saints and in particular, the Virgin Mary. We often address her as “Theotokos,” which means “Mother of God.”The saints who have departed this world are still alive, and very much a part of our Church. We believe that they are the victorious church (since they have finished their race and received the prize of eternal life) and we are the struggling church.  We do not pray to saints, contrary to popular belief, but we ask for their prayers on our behalf the same as you would ask a spiritual father or friend to pray for you. We also believe that the Church is Heaven on earth and that although the saints are not with us in the physical church they are with us in the heavenly Church, praying with us and for us.

(Adapted from a list created by Frederica Mathewes-Green & modified by Fr. Anthony Messeh)

A bit deeper on Orthodox Christianity

I haven't heard of the Orthodox Church?

A more detailed look at the Orthodox Church?

Consider:

• On the one hand, it is the oldest Church in Christendom. On the other hand, it’s new to most people in western society.

• It is the second largest body in Christendom with 225 million people worldwide. 

• In the twentieth century alone, an estimated 40 million Orthodox Christians gave their lives for their faith, primarily under communism. So high is the commitment of many Orthodox Christians to Christ and His Church, she has often been called “the Church of the Martyrs.”

• She is the Church of some of history’s greatest theologians, scholars, and writers— people like St. John Chrysostom, St. Justin Martyr, St. Athanasius. St Cyril of Alexandria, Dostoyevsky, and Alexander Solzehenitsyn.

A Brief History

But what exactly is this Orthodox Church? What are her roots? What are her beliefs? 

The Orthodox Church is the original Christian Church, the Church founded by the Lord Jesus Christ and described in the pages of the New Testament. Her history can be traced in unbroken continuity all the way back to Christ and His Twelve Apostles. The Coptic Orthodox Church, for instance, was founded by St Mark (one of Christ’s disciples and the Gospel writer) in 43 AD.

Incredible as it seems, for over twenty centuries she has continued in her undiminished and unaltered faith and practice. Today her apostolic doctrine, worship, and structure remain intact. The Orthodox Church maintains that the Church is the living Body of Jesus Christ.

Many of us are surprised to learn that for the first 1000 years of Christian history there was essentially just one Church. It was in the eleventh century that a disastrous split occurred between Orthodox East and Latin West. Although it had been brewing for years, the so-called “Great Schism” of 1054 represented a formal—and shocking— separation between Rome and Orthodoxy. At the core of the controversy were two vitally important areas of disagreement: the role of the papacy, and the manner in which doctrine is to be interpreted.

Today the Orthodox Church retains her beauty and vitality. Our current bishop in Sydney, His Grace Bishop Daniel, and patriarch, His Holiness Tawadros II, stand in the line of this apostolic tradition that was founded by St Mark in 43 AD.

What is the difference?

One writer has compared Orthodoxy to the faith of Rome and Protestantism in this basic fashion: Orthodoxy has maintained the New Testament tradition, whereas Rome has often added to it and Protestantism subtracted from it. This is not to say that there is not authentic truth in these Churches, but simply that Orthodoxy is in continuity with the earliest Church.

For example, Rome added to the ancient Creed of the Church, while numerous Protestant Churches rarely study or recite it. Rome has layers of ecclesiastical authority; much of Protestantism is anti-hierarchical or even “independent” in polity. Rome introduced indulgences and purgatory; in reaction, Protestantism shies away from good works and discipline.

In these and other matters, the Orthodox Church has steadfastly maintained the Apostolic Faith. She has avoided both the excesses of papal rule and of congregational independence. She understands the clergy as servants of Christ and His people and not as a special privileged class. She preserved the Apostles’ doctrine of the return of Christ at the end of the age, of the last judgement and eternal life, and continues to encourage her people to grow in Christ through union with Him. In a word, Orthodox Christianity has maintained the Faith “once for all delivered to the saints.”

How do i join the Orthodox Church?

The process of becoming an Orthodox Christian can be compared very closely to the process of getting married for it involves the same basic movements of courtship, engagement and marriage. When you first become interested in the Orthodox Church a series of initial interactions take place. Perhaps you might visit for a liturgy, research Orthodoxy on-line, or engage in a conversation with a friend who is Orthodox.

After this a more studied process of inquiry follows which can be compared to the process of courtship – “getting to know each other.” From there you will get to know one of our priests and community well, and can begin formal preparation for being received into the Orthodox Christian Church. Welcome home!


Come Visit Us this sunday

We’re so glad you’ve decided to visit us!

How do I get there?

You can find our location on the map.

Where should I park?
What should I wear?

Our church has a “come as you are” atmosphere. You will see some dressed up; some dressed casual.

What happens on Sunday?

Divine Liturgy @ 8:45-10:30 AM which followed by great food & fellowship
St Luke’s Kidz Program @ 11:00 AM. Confessions at any time on Sunday or by appointment.




A quote from one of the earliest christians

The Holy Scriptures were not given to us that we should enclose them in books, but that we should engrave them upon our hearts.

St. John Chrysostom 4th Century